and bayh, clinton did just that. james: we had kept trying to educate her, telling her this is not a good idea, that bill is not the place that you want to be. but she still went along and negotiated with them and signed on to this bill. as a result of that, people in new york were furious and decided they're going to just lash into her and, you know, take it to a different level. poussaint: so on may 21st, ladon worked with grassroots groups to bring 200 leaders to d.c. to demand that clinton stop waffling on welfare. james: you know, we took waffles, which we waved, and we sang and we chanted and we protested outside her house, demanding that she take a position. poussaint: meetings with senator clinton had not persuaded her, so the national campaign felt an unannounced house call was their last best option. james: this is a means of getting attention. folks that are impoverished don't have the big bucks that some of these corporations have to put into campaigns. they have their vote, they have their voice, and they have their bodies. and sometimes these actions are a whole lot of fun.